Perm damaged hair

by Denise
(Istanbul)

I have very damaged hairs because i had permed my hair. I looked for the treatment products but there are so many and i can not decide which one is the best and repairing one. I have short hair and because of that cutting is not an option. My hair is also coloured.

My friend told me that "bumble and bumble"'s "deeep" product is good but there are many others i can not decide but i need to fix my damaged frizzed and spitted hairs. Can you give some advice??

www.hairstyles-teacher.com - by: Pamela


Unfortunately, once hair is damaged, it can not be repaired. The protective cuticle has been broken through and a product can not "create" more cuticle for you. You can use conditioning products/silicone products to help smooth the hair a bit in the meantime, but keep your regular haircuts so that eventually all the damage will be cut off

- and never do two processes over the hair (color and perm) - you may have to choose one or the other. Only hair that is very thick/healthy can handle a double process such as this with little damage.

Use Cream DE COCO - by: N.F.


Denise, I agree with Pamela. You won't be able to repair the damage. What your hair need at this stage is moisture. I am a fan of Bumble & Bumble and "Deeep" is a great product for chemically and color treated hair, but I recommend you to use Bumble & Bumble "Cream DE COCO" Masque together with its shampoo and conditioner. What you need is to restore moisture back to your hair and make it flexible and soft. Although "Deeep" was originally designed for damaged hair, but my clients experienced far better results with "Cream DE COCO" than "Deeep".

Answers and Comments for Perm damaged hair

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Oct 03, 2018
 RE: Keratin after perm
by: Anonymous

If with bad perm you mean broken and damaged hair then I would say repair masks do much more good than Keratin.
If however, you mean unsuccessful perm then sure, go ahead and do your Keratin Treatment. I would however recommend evaluating the condition of your hair before treatment. Heat by flat iron used to straight the hair during keratin treatment could seriously break your hair if in bad condition from perm.
Oct 02, 2018
 Keratin after perm
by:

Can I use keratin treatment 24 hours after a bad perm?
Aug 04, 2017
 Advice from a licensed cosmetologist
by: Anonymous

The dry crispy feel is a result of overprocessing, the chemical was left on too long, and you are left will very rough easily tangled hair when wet, and frizzy when dry, if you run your fingers through it you break off several hairs each time, this is not as obvious with short hair.

Some suggestions I've read are good and some will do nothing, if the actual scalp is burned it is usually do to allergic reaction and cortisone may soothe your scalp but I recommend a doctors visit.

As for reconstruction of a bad perm there is new technology. Look for professional,as well as expensive (sorry), if you want to keep your hair then spend the money. These products are bond building such as an Olaplex treatment, you can have one in salon as well as the take home maintenance, there are many loggers such as Bonacure Fibre Force for over processed hair.

Perms break your hairs disulfide bonds and then the neutralizer sets the hair, bad perms leave missing bonds the product replaces for strength.
Jul 23, 2017
 Things that could help and things that could hurt
by: Jessica

I too had damage from a perm a year ago. Lost hair in a grid shape wherever it was parted. I was lied to by the woman at the salon that the worst that could happen is the curl wouldn't hold. I was a human doll after that and my hair thinned much since from trying recovery shampoos designed to make the problem worse over time.

A laser really didn't help but an herbal regimen that I take helps new hair grow in. It's not healthy yet though. I really f***d up by trying laser gain. Total scam f* a bunch of snopes. They give bad directions for those hair growth lasers. The hair removal laser increased my body hair because the frequency of use in the directions said once every 3 weeks for a second. They give opposite directions 3 times a week 10-15 minutes each time for the growth lasers which will make your hair shed rapidly. I don't know about topical application as every oil I've tried made things worse. Now I just use olive oil castille soap on my scalp from Penn organic. I have new hair all over my head but it is not super strong so I don't massage it to avoid breakage.

I go to acupuncture once a week and I tell my acupuncturist to skip the massage to avoid breakage. I still have enough hair after all this mess to hide damage and thinning and I have a lot of weak hairs that have the potential to get stronger it seems. Every day I put two quarts of water in a pan. I put in 1 and a half teaspoons of green tea, 2 teaspoons of horsetail, 2 teaspoons burdock rt., 2 teaspoons bilberry, and 3 teaspoons nettle. In another pan I put one and a half teaspoons of fenugreek and 1/4th cup of fo ti to 5 cups water. I bring to a boil and turn the heat off. I let it sit until it cools and I drink it throughout the day. On top of that I take 4000 milligrams of Amyla powder a day( this is a good source of vitamin C no additional vitamin C is needed), 1000 mg of pumpkin seed oil, pb8 probiotic. Chlorella, 1000 mg of saw palmetto, chaste tree berry, 500 mg L cysteine, 600 mg grape seed extract, 400 micrograms of folic acid, and 1000 mg of magnesium. I know it's a long list.

If you decide to try the teas make sure you get the dried herbs in full form not powder because some companies will send you the wrong thing such as starwest botanicals and it will make you vomit your brains out. Frontier is a good supplier. If you order them by the pound they are cheap. Don't get the capsules. They're a rip off.

If you want to talk more or find out more info about why I take some of this stuff to help my hair contact me by email Jannegrimes@hotmail.com and I'll give you my phone number. I still have scalp itching issues I've tried washing less or more but my hair is naturally quite greasy so for me the quality of my hair looks better when I wash daily.

I'd love to find a conditioner with good ingredients because even when my hair is greasy it still seems dry. Clay takes the itch away and I definitely wish I would have tried it right after the perm to suck those chemicals out of my scalp but I can't use it long term because it dries out of my hair and honestly I've read conflicting info on whether minerals are good or bad for it.

If they didn't wash the chemicals out well enough wash your hair with cold water and rinse it repeatedly with the diluted clay right after.

Don't put hot water on it because it will open your pores and those chemicals will go in there and damage the follicles. Don't use the clay long term and wash it off with soap. Olive oil liquid castille soap if you can find it.
Jun 12, 2017
 RE: Old perm
by: Anonymous

You can't undo a perm. You can only use another treatment to straight the hair (very stressful to hair).

But, first: Get a haircut, trim the damaged part out. Evaluate the condition of your hair. Is it healthy enough to go through another stressful treatment to get it straight again? If not try to grow it out gradually.

If you can't tell, then you need a professional help from stylist. Can't afford a salon visit? Go to Sally Beauty Supply and get advice from them.
Jun 12, 2017
 Old perm
by: Anonymous

I permed my hair a while ago and my hair is really bad now, and I just want my hair to go back to how it was before the perm but I don't know how to do that so someone please help me!!!
Apr 20, 2017
 Undo a Perm
by: Anonymous

It is possible to "undo" a perm but it depends on several facts. Straightening solution selected based on what sort of perm was used. If it was Acid solution or Alkaline? Is your hair in prime condition or after perm is now too fragile to go through another chemical process. A Wrong decision and timing could cause breakage and hairloss. Only the stylist who done the perm knows these answers. Safest action is to wait several weeks before you decide going through another chemical treatment.
Apr 16, 2017
 Help
by: Anonymous

I have a perm and all i want is my straight hair back! Can i go back to a stylalist and get it un done or do i have to wait?
Sep 09, 2016
 Horrible salon perm.
by: Anonymous

Two days ago I went to a very nice salon. Stylist has done my hair befor rolled my hair put per solution on. Timed ... Went to rinse it she took rollers out first. Rinsed it realized she screwed up re rolled it. Put more perm solution on it. Rinsed then neutralizer. Two days later the top part of my head is like mush I have pea size bald spots down my part line. My scalp feels like a sun burn in places. Anything I can do to keep from losing more hair or having to go to a short spikey cut.. It's shoulder length now.. Back not so bad. Front and top crispy
Jul 31, 2016
 ApHogee
by: Anonymous

Try ApHogee protein treatment!!It helps alot!!
May 24, 2016
 Mending Masque
by: Anonymous

Mending Masque from Bumble&Bumble is much better choice. You can use it for dry damaged hair as well is chemically treated damage!
Apr 27, 2016
 Hair Mask for damage
by: Anonymous

I agree. Shielo Intensive Mask is a great product. Another alternative with good results for perm damage is Mending Masque from Bumble&Bumble - 10 min treatment, once a week.
Apr 26, 2016
 bad perm
by: Anonymous

I got a perm on Oct. 10th - I waited two days to wash my hair so the perm would hold then washed it again after 2 more days and 75% of the perm is gone.

Of course, I was upset! My stylist recommended the Shielo Intensive Hair Mask - its a deep conditioning treatment because my hair was dry. My hair looks 100 times better! It made the perm come back a little more, it's not perfect but it looks a whole lot better and I feel a lot better too. I will always have this Shielo product around next time i get a perm - its a saver!
Mar 15, 2015
 Real bad perm
by: Anonymous

Well My Mom Put A Perm In Her Hair And Now All Of Her Hair Is Falling Out Her Hair Was A little thick But now it like She cut her Hair and She Got bald spots please Can you give me some ideas So She Can have her Hair back to normal p.s her Hair was long But now it about to Be No Hair on her head Please Help me ❗😩
Jan 14, 2015
 Help for burns
by: Anonymous

First wash off all chemical remains from scalp with mild SLS free or baby shampoo. Then get some aloe vera juice or gel and rub on it. It helps to sooth and relief. If severe burning then you should let your MD to take a look and prescribe some pharmacy grade medications if necessarily. It should be treated like skin burn.
Jan 13, 2015
 my hair is burned
by: Anonymous

Okay I permed my hair today after a few mins or so it started to burn so I washed it out but after I dried it it was burnt patches like at the scalp part of my head & it still burns.. My mom looked at it and felt it & she told me that my hair is burnt at the roots, what can I do to get it back to normal & to remove the burned patches?? I need help asap. It feels gross
Feb 25, 2014
 to tammcm123
by: JJ

You hair will grow back and yes its possible that hair get thinner. You just need to keep trimming the burned strands regularly as new hair grow. Gradually it gets better. Use hair oils like Moroccan to keep nourishing it. It helps! Do not perm again at-least not until its healthy again. Next time use semi-perm - it is gentler on hair
Feb 25, 2014
 damage after a perm
by: tammcm123

I have been getting perms for years. Each time I get a perm ..especially on top you feel this rough patches and you can tell some of the hair strands have been for lack of words burned down..it feels like a crew cut under my curls.

What can I do to prevent this and will my hair grow back.. maybe my imagination..but my hair looks thinner on top..

I have them do more rods ..put less hair on the rods.. but it still happens..
answers please
Aug 13, 2012
 Keratin after perm
by: Anonymous

The Keratin works if you are suffering from a bad perm.It smoothed out my hair about 80%. Just make sure you are informed of which chemicals are in the Keratin because some could be harmful. Best of luck to you!
Aug 08, 2012
 To Lauren M.
by: Anonymous

Yes keratin treatments could be very helpful to frizzy hair. However it is not without risks! Wrong application or too much keratin could cause breakage. Just do research and make sure to do patch and strand test before full application.
Aug 08, 2012
 bad perm
by: Lauren Mac

I had my hair permed last June and it didnt end up as expected. I had long coloured hair. It was a bit dry so they also did some "treatment" after the perm but still my hair ended up so dry and frizzy. I was thinking if keratin treatment will help do justice for my hair. I have tried so many creams and mousse for my hair but still ended up stiff after i set my hair. I noticed that my hair strands are very thin as well.
Feb 16, 2012
 To dolores - Perm & bleach or Highlight
by: Anonymous

Perm and bleach or highlighted blond conducted by bleach will never work right together. As result hair either burns, get frizzy, break OR curl pattern simply never take.

There are some good advices on this page. Just cut away most of the burned or damaged hair and try to grow-out your hair gently with care. Stay away from chemical treatments and coloring (Root touch-up is ok to do) for next few months.
Feb 15, 2012
 burned perm hair
by: dolores

some one please tell me some way to fix this. I permed my hair the day before valentines day and when it dried my whole head was burned. I went to a salon she put some type of stuff in my hair but when i left once id dried it went back to the same. I don't know what to do i just really want my hair back. I did not know if u ever bleached your hair, your not supposed to perm it but i did and this is what happened to me so please some one tell me something to do.
Oct 13, 2011
 SAME EXPERIENCE :(
by: Anonymous

I have colored hair and stupidly i decided to do a perm, unfortunately the bottom half was not colored and the top was with high lights the bottom got permed but the top didn't. It feels horrible just like gum. reading all these comments just makes me sad and teary! My 18th birthday is in 4 days and im gonna look horrible. I know its just hair but in a girls eyes that means alot! I don't know what to do to my hair and need help on what treatments to put to restore it back. Thanks much appreciated.
May 21, 2011
 Been there done that
by: Frizzie

The only answer is to have some cut off every 4 weeks until the damaged hair is gone.
It will take awhile so be patient. Meanwhile try Aussie hair repair. Remember....even treated hair isn't like hair free of chemicals.
Jan 19, 2011
 Damaged Spot
by: Anonymous

I am a 21 year old male with a slight balding spot in the front of my head. About one year and six months ago, I had gotten a perm done. It ruined my hair badly, tangled it up everywhere. I cut my hair a few days later, seeing as it appeared worse with the perm than before. Since then, a spot of the front of my hair has been rather thin. I at first, left it alone, shampooing and conditioning my hair as often as every other day. Later, I started trimming my hair short but, I avoided cutting off the damaged spot. Most of the products listed on this page are not available in my area.
Jan 12, 2010
 Bad perm
by: michele

I am a Apostolic woman with natural curly hair. How ever my hair was getting so long that the weight of it was pulling my hair straight in some places. After a while it really started to bug me. I am also a cosmetologist and know first hand the damage a perm can do. After awhile... Read more
Aug 29, 2009
 Perm Damage Remedy
by: JJ

There are very good advices here. Here is my .25
Cut away only hopeless and totally burned strands. Provide intensive nourishment and condition to rest two times a week. Change your normal shampoo to intensive care for at least 6 months (3 months if your hair is short). Trim all the ends every 6 weeks. I strongly suggest Aveda Damage Remedy shampoo and treatments. They are a little expensive, but fantastic.

Monica, you case is different. 13 Years and no difference in growth? - You need to see a dermatologist. They need to do some microscopic test on your scalp and hair strands to see why is that!. This is not normal!
Aug 24, 2009
 Worst perm
by: monica

I had thick long brown hair with a natural red shine. The only thing i did to my hair was hair cuts. My friend being a hairdresser staff training permed my hair after hours in the salon, and most of my hair was warped in the rollers in the sink and all that was left was strands. My hair was burned from roots and when she was taking the rollers out she would take the rollers with my hair out. No need to unroll. After that she put a towel over the basin so i wouldn't see my hair but i did. My hair never grew back the thickness that it was and the crown thinning out so bad that I'm going bold.
I went to Ashley & Martins and had a treatment with a little success and now its going bold at the crown. Can't get over it as I am 29 years of age and this happend when I was 16.
I am so sad over my hair. Is there some thing out there for me? I want my hair back and have nothing more to loose but try!
Jul 05, 2009
 Damaged hair after perm
by: Anonymous

Please i need help i permed my hair 4 days ago,and i have color treated hair. My hair now is extremely damaged my points is stretchy i cant move my fingers through my hair without getting it stuck. Please i need advice - my hair's length in my neck and i don't want to cut it short.
Apr 24, 2009
 Perm damage
by: suze

My boyfriends mum went to a salon local to us that is meant to be a good name, they permed and coloured her hair at the same time for which she paid them £150,her hair is now wrecked, it was like a mass of knotted chewing gum which cannot be brushed through.

It has been about 6months now and the hair is no better and it has now put her off going,so she hasn't even had a cut again since then, my hairdresser tells me she needs to use keratin on it,and he also cant believe that a salon with such a good name would even consider doing both processes on the same day, he said its a wonder her hair didn't fall out or snap off, the salon did get her to sign a disclaimer, so im sure they knew they were in the wrong.
Apr 06, 2009
 Irritation by Shampoo
by: N.F.

Angela, Creme de CoCo shampoo from Bumble and Bumble contain Sodium Laureth Sulfate, Sodium Sulfate (SLS, SLES) and Sodium Chloride. Many kids (due to their sensitive skin) and even adults develop allergy for these anionic detergents. Read the label of your shampoo and try natural and organic certificate products.
Apr 05, 2009
 Creme de Coco and itching
by: Angela

I love creme de Coco products and been using them for a while, but recently i started to notice scalp irritation and itching for several days every time i use the shampoo. I wonder if anyone else experience the same? Any help appreciated?

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